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Larry Summers, Deutsch style?
October 21, 2009, 4:53 pm
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Somebody handed me a flyer at lunch today telling me to go to this website, which is the home of a campaign demanding that the president of the FU step down because he’s some sort of autocratic elitist who runs the university like a business.

Most of their complaints I definitely don’t have the background to understand (the Bologna Process? what’s that? and why are you complaining so much about Germany saying your university was an excellent university? I need to read that part again), but I understand this well enough: evidently in 2005 he made an iffy comment about the intelligence of Turks when asked to explain a recently published study that showed Turkish children were doing poorly on German IQ tests.

“Das Problem besteht nur bei türkischen Kindern und nicht etwa bei Kindern aus arabischen Familien. Möglicherweise sind Sprachdefizite verantwortlich für die Intelligenzdefizite, aber das ist nicht erwiesen. Ein Zusammenhang zwischen sozial schwacher Herkunft und mangelhafter Intelligenz besteht nicht.”

["The problem exists in Turkish children but not in children from Arab families. It's possible that speech deficits are responsible for the intelligence deficits, although that hasn't been proven. There is no correlation between having a socially improverished background and poor intelligence."]

And then he made some comments about how Turkish parents needed to help their kids learn better German. He doesn’t put it very well, but it kind of seems like to me that he’s pointing out something very obvious: if you don’t speak German well, and you take a German-language IQ test, you’re going to do poorly. How do you learn to speak German better? You grow up in a home where the German language is used. He doesn’t say Turks are stupid, he says they need to speak more German.

Which is obviously opening up ten more cans of worms about language and culture and implied assumptions, but without launching into a radical critique of the IQ test, the guy had two options: to say “Yes, isn’t that funny, Turks are dumb,” or to say “Hey, Turks aren’t dumb, they just don’t speak German, if they spoke German better they would do better” and I think we can all agree the second is better than the first.

He doesn’t go all the way to saying “The IQ test doesn’t measure intelligence, it measures German-language competency,” but I guess I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until I see more evidence that he’s racist.

(On a somewhat related note, the university really should have Turkish-for-Heritage-Speakers classes. Well, okay, there’s probably not enough Turks around for that yet, given that some miniscule percentage of them go on to university, but there are more than I would have expected in my Turkish class. The city should get some German-as-a-Second-Language teachers, put them in the elementary schools, and then wait ten years and have Turkish-for-Heritage-Speakers classes.)


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Ok, to answer some of your questions…
While I absolutely agree with you, that there is certainly no point in calling Dieter Lenzen a racist, as there is no evidence to proof that point and to me this appears to be a defamation campaign against a political enemy, there certainly are some points that you could critisize…
The complaint against the excellent university stuff is, that there had been some campaign to find out which universities are “excellent” and which aren’t. The excellent universities… like ours… got an additional amount of money and the whole campaign was presented as an improvement in educational standards in germany. But: While those got granted extra money, the total amount of money spent on education was actually reduced. So what actually happens is an attempt to make education to something only a few people have access to.
Unnecessary to say, the universities that got promoted also got some publicity by their new status as “Elite”-universities… which boosts the Numerus Clausus at those universities. Also, the money that was given to those universities isn’t money that’s spent on a general improvement of educational quality, but is only pumped into certain “clusters”, which might prove themselves as good investments.
The Bologna Process is the attempt to unify european education… which doesn’t sound that bad at all, but still implies the whole Bachelor/Master System, which is actually quite the opposite of an improvement, given the german system that existed before. While you certainly have the chance to finish your time at the university faster, you won’t actually get an education as good as the one you had before that.

Comment by anti

anti–

Vielen Dank für die Erklärungen, besonders von meinen englischsprachigen Lesern!

I went to a small private university in the United States, so the degree of centralization that exists in German (and, maybe unfortunately, now European) universities is very foreign to me, but I’m starting to understand the differences between the old German system and the new Bachelor/Master system. Both have their advantages.

Is there a lot of student activism in Germany around changing this sort of high-level educational policy? Now that the Bologna Process is being implemented, do you think there’s been a lot of resistance?

Comment by Lauren Stokes

Hey Lauren –

Spanish students have a big problem with the Bologna process too, for what sounds like the opposite reason. For most Spanish students it means much more class time (by years for a degree and hours per week), fewer state subsidies, and a change in class format, which used to allow people to “take classes” remotely, studying independently and just coming in for the final exam. So while that all means much higher quality of education, it also limits access for kids who can’t afford to live near the university or go to school full-time.

When I was at UB all the students were pretty riled about it (and apparently got more so:
http://euobserver.com/881/27303) but the history kids were the only ones to really act on it, barricading the building and holding a huge three-day rally. I naively assumed the filologia students would be doing the same and missed a week of lit classes. Ooops.

Comment by Steen

Hey Steen!

I remember you telling me about that rally! Germans and Catalunyans are different. I wonder if anyone likes the Bologna process, if there’s like a country that was already working a lot like the Bologna process and so the students there aren’t angry about it. I have heard that it’s more “American,” but I wonder if it’s also more “Icelandic,” or something.

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